Krystal and Saagar are joined by govt editor of The American Prospect David Dayen to higher perceive the present supplied by Biden to the photo voltaic business foyer by halting China tariffs
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Doesn't this just mean the tariffs are lifted for future sales? Surely it doesn't retroactively apply? Thus these circumvention cases should still be able to move forward?
Anything for the communists, right Krystal.
[insert horrible practice that makes money for a few powerful people]…it's the cost of freedom.
What?! Beijing Biden caves to his corporate masters?!? Shocking. I just love how the alarmists justify the idea of "green" energy which actually results in more global emissions because the products are made with dirty carbon energy. Not to mention their willingness to look past those pesky horrific human rights issues!
Grats on 1 year.
Monopolized is a kick ass book
They like to be the MIDDLE MAN always couse is EASY and make more MONEY form it.
Segment was good, thanks.
OK…it's complex…but here's the problem. When you get protectionism, the protected industry uses that to gouge prices.
I am heavily involved in neighborhood solar. What we are trying to do is bypass the corporations who install solar and train local people to do it. It's not really that hard for any competent carpenter and electrician. You make it affordable for the local homeowner and keep the money paid for installation IN the local community.
(Initially, solar was only sold to well off people who wanted to be "Green". The companies were charging FAR more that the job was worth on a parts and labor basis…some times three times the real/fair cost.)
Solar panel prices…the main component cost of a home solar system…has been trending downward in recent years making the payback period…the time it takes for you to earn back the cost of installation in energy generated…shorter, making it more attractive to people who DON'T have disposable income.
Let's be clear…distributed, democratic solar generation needs a LOT of people to do it to be significant. Otherwise, you are just leaving energy…and green energy generation…to the big corporations. Who will charge whatever pleases their investors. The real benefits of solar, which falls in sufficient quantity on EVERY house to eventually take care of ALL that homeowners energy needs., will be again, co-opted by big capital.
To the point…since the beginning of the year, solar panel prices have been going back up…for the EXACT SAME panels.
So hand China a win, virtue signal about the environment, and waste tax money all at the same time? Sounds about right.
I can't imagine why Biden would feel beholden to China. Surely not related to the 4.8 M that the Chinese energy (CEFC) allegedly paid to his son that JB knew nothing about.
Interesting how they glossed over prison labor here with the old 'Two wrongs don't make a right'.
how about a freakin regulation that whatever the product you produce is, that product HAS to last a long,long, long time/F O R E V E R….or you're not allowed to produce it anymore!! can't we FORCE companies to make good/long lasting/QUALITY products for once?!
oh wait that goes against the fundamentals of capitalism tho….gee gotta keep moneyism!!(eye rolling) just not allowed to even want nice things/a nice home, because then we can't have capitalism can we?!….capitalism is obviously THE thing that has caused the supply chain issues…a system that values money over ALL else will obviously not care about "supply chains", it laughs cynically at supply chains! it will not care whether babies have food or not! it only cares about money DUH!!! capital means money so capitalism is moneyism and this system just means that money is more important than EVERYTHING ELSE….it's more important than me/you/infants/other life/the earth itself….oh i can just hear it already but what about 'free markets"??? what? what does "free markets" even mean in a system that cannot care about "free markets" we don't' have "free marketism" we have capitalism/moneyism that's what we have, so even if there were a world in which we had absolute zero government regulations on our capitalist economy we STILL wouldn't have ''free markets" because moneyism isn't putting any dang market above money DUH DUH DUH
there's just no way there will EVER be "free markets" in a capitalist system because then that would be a different system. there's zero way moneyism/capitalism can ever make anything, including markets, more important than money right i mean how could it? how could a system that makes money the most important thing, like that's it's name moneyism/capitalism, how can a system like this have "free markets" it just can't since money is more important than everything including free markets….like wow they've been trying to tell me my entire life(almost 40 years) that we don't have 'free markets" because our government has too many regulations on our economic system(something about that never seemed to make sense but now/today, i see why)!! so all my life they've been claiming we don't have 'free markets' because our gov regulations but if the economic system is moneyism/capitalism meaning money above ALL else then it's capitalisms own fault, it can't value markets over money can it?? gee what an epiphany…
this must be like the 5th comment i've made on yt today(usually i don't make this many) and all on different videos with very different topics but somehow they've all come back to moneyism and how it's the cause of the problem or how it's negatively affected that topic, gee it's really not lookin good for moneyism….just keeps on getting worse and worse each time…
I love solar but am absolutely appalled by the Chinese Communist Party's treatment of the Uyghurs and Hong Kong citizens. Vote with your wallet, don't support solar panels that come from China.
So cheap solar panels are bad because China makes them and dominates the market? I don't see the problem. Fighting climate change is more important than cutting profits for China, or maybe it's different on Sinophobia Points, I don't know
Government is evil goons. That is all you should know. And yet seem oblivious to.
Also, when do we admit that solar energy isn’t a dense form of energy and we shouldn’t rely on it as a primary energy sense.
Not lobby, criminal bribery! Need to stop white washing criminal activity by calling it a corporate approved activity!
so much for all those green energy jobs Biden said that were going to transition coal miner's to .
Sir, you’re talking about ALL colleges in the US. All American colleges are soaking our children (and their parents) it’s sad.
i don't like where you're going with this. The solution is not to fight for Chinese solar to be more expensive. Their loss leading is a good thing. If you have a problem with them being cheaper, heavily subsidise your industry like they do and like you already do for products like corn. These are warped priorities grounded in little but nativism.
David Dayen: Uh, we've never actually incentivize solar production in the United States
Wholly fucking shit, how seriously uneducated is this guy?!? I use to make silicon wafers for a company that received tens of millions of dollars from the state we are in, to open and expand their factories. Across the country there have been hundreds of millions of dollars in donations, and tax breaks, invested in the solar industry. This clown in lying to your face, and you don't even have the intelligence to call him out for it?!? What the actual fuck?!?
The company I worked for, btw, opened a factory in China, then closed their US factories, because they "couldn't compete with cheaper products from China".
Saager do you really think all USA companies follow environmental rules? 😂
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David Dayen's argument that Americans should boycott China's solar panels because they're manufactured with forced labor suggests that Americans should also boycott American products that are manufactured with forced (prison) labor. Otherwise, Americans end up looking like hypocrites. Dayen didn't have a good answer to that conundrum. IJS.
Think Amazon has that business model down pat AND they are in deep with every wage slave casino nation.
more lies about xinjiang….THE ENTIRE REGION OF XINJIANG, ALL GOODS ARE PRODUCED FROM SLAVE LABOR????? Xinjiang represents 14% of the land mass of China. Talk about protectionism.
How is prison labors in America remotely comparable to Uyghur slave labors in China?? That single asinine comment ruined this whole video for me.
We should only allow outsourcing if domestically we cant full fill the procurement.
i have a question what about the labor that our inmate do are they not force labor and get paid next to nothing?
Biden sold out America for China…never saw that coming!
CHINA: let's covid spread all over the world, has slaves, and is openly vying for world domination and the destruction of the US
BIDEN: … bends over
A lot of these for profit colleges exist because of the ridiculous regulations put in place that require certification to do jobs that can easily be on the job training. It's government feeding an unnecessary industry.
My company just received notification that Ductile Iron waterline pipe has a 36 to 70 week lead time…this pipe is made in the US, but Biden's dumb @ss is worried about solar panels from China… #JFC
I work in an industry that also has anti-dumping duties, and I see what he calls trans-shipments happening in our industry. We've tried to move away from this and work with other suppliers that operate out of other countries, but ultimately there's no way to know that these other suppliers don't simply have front offices/warehouses in those countries but are internally also just using trans-shipments to dump goods. I've considered bringing production to the US, but when even the largest players in our industry find that next to impossible given the EPA regulations here, I don't see much an option. Ultimately our products are commodities, and customers will jump ship the moment we raise prices to cover the cost of meeting said regulations.
Biden did not cave to pro China lobby – He obeyed his owners who could destroy Hunter and him by spilling their guts about the bribes they have paid to the Biden family mob/
Solar Panels are a national strategic asset.
Yet we treat is like potato chips
It’s cheaper there because $15 minimum wage is literally competing with SLAVERY!
Not surprised,Biden is a do nothing or do something stupid president
We need to build thorium nuclear reactors not solar.
I disagree that prison labor is bad as long as it's used in the right way. If it's not used to extend sentences or enrich those involved (Kamala Harris's way) etc. If the money directly goes to the community these prisons are in and/or surrounding communities. Turn prisons back into non profit. The inmates will also have other useful life skills when leaving.
The problem is, the people involved are seemingly always unscrupulous as fuck.
u do a video complaining he does nothing on inflation and the price of gas. he does something that keeps cost down, helps solar workers keep working, makes electric cars more sensible and its green. i would call the present inflation, bordering on recession, situation a emergency.
How many jobs will this cost Americans? Another great job by the fool.
I absolutely love when breaking points brings in these long form conversations with people who really know the in’s and out’s of a certain subject
Biden is quite Literally destroying Every Aspect of the American Economy.
– And yet he takes ZERO Responsibility.
Come on. The weegerrr lies have debunked themselves like a million times. New brains needed.
Boy oh boy happens to everybody who works anywhere near the capital.